I aint harping on at anybody but I have to shatter some of these notions and make a very distinct point on jumping just so we all "know" what constitutes a "trickjump" and a normal objective bypassing "2x jump" ...
Hello my friends,
The adminteam added a new rule to the rulebook.
check section 2.6.d !
we are sad that we had to put this rule in the rulebook, but it seems necessary, while some players dont understand when an admin say: NO TRICKJUMPS.
WE WILL LOOK AFTER THIS RULE. by violation you will be seen as an cheater.(this means:warning-kick-ban)
The Admin Team
"seems" is the strongest word in there i think ...
The rule 2.6d :-
Trickjumping is not alouwed! on BraveHeart Servers!
We consider Trickjumping as an unfair advantage to other players who are less skilled, it is therefor not alouwed!
we will treat trickjumping as cheats, so be WARNED.
I still fail to see what is unfair on a level playing field, this might actually shock you all but there are players on BH that don't use double jump at all ... So maybe having dublejump enabled is an unfair advantage over them? Is it? Ofcourse not, it's the fun factor and thats why 2x jumps is back ... and there is always somebody less skilled ... You can certainly "lable" trickjumping as cheating if you so wish and therein act apon that as you wish but what you "cannot" do is confuse trickjumping with a normal 2x jump ... For example, take the Fuel Dump, 2x jumping over the wall and bypassing the objective is not a trickjump, all you have to do is jump twice ... Trickjumping is jumping either singley or doubley off another object with the aid of a bunny-hop to produce a greater than "normal" Jump, 2x or not, i.e a jump greater than that you can do with just sprinting and jumping on the flat ... Contrary to popular belief, trickjumping isnt espically used for bypassing objectives, even more so on dublejump servers, its not needed but it can be used to get to certain vantage points which I might also add were designed into the level otherwise they would be uncliped ... Have you never wondered why 99% of objects in maps are exactly the heigh of a double jump? No it aint an accident ...
Now that we've kind of seperated the the forms of jumps, you have to ask yourself whats acceptible? Lets say giving you the credit (if that is the right word) that such jumping is unfair, where would you guage what "is" and "isnt" fair in terms of jumps?
Simple, if the jump can be done on the flat with nothing but sprint and two mouse clicks then its acceptible? as long as it dont bypass an objective? Right? or do you want people to jump short of nornal jumps by using back key?
Then with that aside you get to wondering well what exactly is an objective and when is it being bypassed? You could write a book here but it all depends on map and what side your on but usually jumping out over your own defences doesnt count!
Ok Ill get on with replying a few others ...
hello all my frends.
blue it was a hard dission for you.
but i can tell you to put trickjump out of bh.
the game will be nicer to play.
it was a hard one but a good one.
its even the players.
my thanks for it.
gretzzzzzzzzzzz.
mr.gamer
Hello gamer my friend 🙂 ... aye, but I dont know that it even the players, just hinders the potential of "more skilled" players if were talking in opposites ...
and do we have double jump now?
greetz killzone
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Doublejump comes back this weekend.
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yeahhhhhh,i missed it,thats very fine thx Blue m8
"Me too" .. I never thought I'd say that again in six years lol (private joke) ... ok, if you really want to know, I used to administrate a forum where all the drones just said nothing but "me too" in 90% of there posts posts if not all of them ...
hello frends.
this is not the way to play it.
for all players i say no dubble jump.
lets make it a real playing server.
dubble jump make that it is a funny game.
in real there is no dubble jump.
lets play it that way.
the real way.
no dubble jump.
gratzzzzzzzz
mr.gamer
I dont really mind, my rank had rocketed up during the single jump week, probibly because you couldn't get past my mines 🙂 ... On a side note, however, I know it is possible to script this setting on a per map bases if certain maps were problems maps but I think this would make players a little dizzy ...
I think double jump is oke but not to abuse it to jump walls to get objective.
Using double jump onto buildings so you can shoot from a sneaky place
isn't that bad but double jumping the wall at, for example fuel dump map is lame.
But that's just my opinion.
Cheers,
Helly
I couldn't agree more and you have my best wishes 🙂
It depends. As long as double-jump [DJ] is on people are going to abuse it just because it's available.
If BH is supposed to be a more realistic server then DJ should be turned off. On the other hand, if not, then I think DJ is ok. It makes it easier to move around and gives near combat-situations another dimension (ie. jump and shoot instead of lay down and shoot).
So, DJ or not, that is the question. Why not make a vote about it?
Good post Robbie S and I've heard it been said that it's not realistic to do certain things but then shotting somebody in the head 3 times or emptying a full clip into someone isnt realistic either, ET is NOT a realism game, it's a fun game with a theme and I dont think all should be taken too seriously but yeah DJ adds another dimention, I do like the freedom of double jump in battle too ...
Yeah, i vote yes for make a vote!!
Btw I will always prefer realists settings so DJ off for me
Or maybe my grand pa lied to me and in WW2 all soldiers were shaolin like?
I know there are many things that are'nt realist in ET but DJ is just too much for me... but if all of you want it on i'll dont mind neither. After all if I can enjoy panzer party with crazy gravity...
That really depends on your depth perception but if you could reach the same or similar height on a single jump server it might not seem to unrelastice or out of place, well not when your jumping that is or you dont have to jump "mid-air", that is really unrealistic when you think about it, huh? 🙂 You could probibly tweak gravity to curb some of these issues or opt for the noquater type jump which I think if memory serves right was the counter-part to jaymod jump but then more skilled players would still have a real advantage, so we'd still need a rule for it and we'd be right back where we started, unreal or what? 🙂
Heya
2x jump its for the fun and i think we all like fun in the game ( dont forgett its only a game,its not real and we all are going online for the fun ) , i love it to play with 2x jump ,but it must be fair,no trickjump and 2x jump to the objektiv its not allowed
Greetz SCAR
Very well said my friend ... I just dont want to see normal jumps and special vantage pointing be rolled into it ...
Good night all ...
TOXiC
